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Obviously, this project has been indefinitely postponed.

ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89 is inactive, as are all the other users. I, myself, have been inactive [regarding the Havok Guild Project] for far too long and just don't have the time to dedicate for resurrecting the Domain at the moment.

A few things need to happen:

  1. I am able to drop to part time without sacrificing too much income.
  2. People expressing interest in joining the Guild.
  3. A decent amount of new members express interest in becoming Staff.

I will continue to work intermittently on the Domain for a while, but I make no promises as to when it'll be complete.


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

With six days left until I entrench myself into the project, I think now would be the most opportune time to open this discussion thread with a few questions. For clarification, by ‘site’, I do mean the whole Havok Guild Domain unless otherwise noted.

  1. What do you think users want from the main site?
  2. What do you want to get out of the main site?
  3. What do you want to get out of the command site?
  4. What, if any, policies and procedures should we discuss and/or reconsider?
    • Should we change any policies?
  5. What is your opinion about the overall style of the site?
    • Are there some changes we can make?
    • Do you have any suggestions?

I will post my answers this afternoon when I have a bit more time to type.


ETA: As I'm currently moving and travelling, the start date of the project has, indeed, been postponed to 03 January 2019. However, I'm still open to discussion!


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Re: Dust.
ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89 19 Nov 2018 01:36
in discussion General Discussion / Misc. » Dust.

Quite appreciated, Bloodthirsty. If you would like, I can return you to Half-Staff of the Forum Moderators.

In a few days, the aforementioned thread will open in Projects to discuss various aspects of the project. In that thread, we'll be going over ideas to improve the sites themselves.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Re: Dust. by ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89, 19 Nov 2018 01:36
Re: Dust.
BloodthirstygamerBloodthirstygamer 18 Nov 2018 05:54
in discussion General Discussion / Misc. » Dust.

I'll help in anyway I can, Grey.

Re: Dust. by BloodthirstygamerBloodthirstygamer, 18 Nov 2018 05:54

Honestly, having been a part of creating the FF_Templates, I can tell you that you're absolutely correct. Not only is it a pain in the ass to copy the page source, but it's an even bigger pain in the ass making any corrections, adding formatting, creating the hundred or so individual FF_Hubs, creating the hundred or so ListPages Modules for each category, and so on.

I say ‘good riddance’ to the FF and ListPages for the CCC_Hub.

Bonus question: should I do a How-To video on creating new pages after getting critified?

Yes, very much so. It's a simple process, but some things inevitably become lost in translation.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Re: Dust.
ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89 12 Nov 2018 19:02
in discussion General Discussion / Misc. » Dust.

As an update, I'm planning to begin this revitalization and revival project on 26 November 2018.

A separate thread in Projects will be opened soon so we can discuss any ideas you may have.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Re: Dust. by ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89, 12 Nov 2018 19:02
Re: Dust.
Reverend FoxReverend Fox 07 Nov 2018 00:06
in discussion General Discussion / Misc. » Dust.

Damn, Grey, this is really insightful and well-articulated [as usual]. Let me break down my response in bits.

Was this the way it was meant to end?

No?

Was this our destiny as a guild?

No? These questions are hard!

Were we doomed from the start?

To be honest… yes. Well, no… but yes. What I mean is that if I'd have slowed down a bit and not let the Guild completely envelop every aspect of my purview of the group, the project would have not burned out like it did. By ‘yes’, though, I mean that I wasn't self-aware enough to stop that from happening.

I choose to think we started this race on the wrong foot — a mile and a half off target — in the cold rain — wearing bowling shoes on an icy surface.

That is probably the best way to put it! I can't think of a better metaphor.

I will not let the Guild nor Reverend Fox down.

Really, Grey? No. You, nor the team, let me down. I let you all down, and that's the truth of the matter.

I will work to … rebuild it from the ground up.

Yes, but who's going to put the penis back on the statue of Zanward? [kidding]

If you're interested in helping me, let me know here in this thread.

Hells yes, I'm in!

And no, Fox, you can't be in on this.

I… aw, man.


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

Re: Dust. by Reverend FoxReverend Fox, 07 Nov 2018 00:06
Dust.
ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89 06 Nov 2018 22:38
in discussion General Discussion / Misc. » Dust.

Almost a year's worth of digital dust from the internet has blown in through an open window. Now there is a thick layer of it all over the place. There are white sheets covering many things throughout the Guild Hall and its respective offices and outbuildings. Was this the way it was meant to end? Was this our destiny as a guild? Were we doomed from the start?

I choose to think we started this race on the wrong foot — a mile and a half off target — in the cold rain — wearing bowling shoes on an icy surface. This was not our destiny! This is not how our story ends! The ending hasn't been written yet! With this post comes a promise. I will not let the Guild nor Reverend FoxReverend Fox down. I will work to push out the dust from the Guild Hall, refurbish it, and, if necessary, rebuild it from the ground up.

If you're interested in helping me, let me know here in this thread. In two weeks, we will begin this new project. If you're not a member of this particular site of the Guild, send me a private message.

Let's get this thing back to what it was supposed to be.

ETA: And no, Fox, you can't be in on this. You're already too busy for your own good.

ETA: After having a brief phone conversation with Fox this morning [08 November 2018], he explained that his workload is much lower than it was previously and should stay that way for a time.

So, alright, Fox. You can be a part of the restoration project, but if you start to feel overwhelmed, feel free to tap out at any time.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Dust. by ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89, 06 Nov 2018 22:38

That's quite alright. Very often, I'm at a loss for words as well, but there are always some words floating around in the ether just waiting to be noticed.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Re: Feeling Good by ExistentialGrey89ExistentialGrey89, 05 Feb 2018 16:33

Hope I live up to the expectations, sorry for the late replay. I couldn't think of what to say.

Feeling Good by BloodthirstygamerBloodthirstygamer, 05 Feb 2018 01:06

Welcome, BloodthirstygamerBloodthirstygamer! I do hope you're up for a challenge!


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

Just to let everybody know, I am back. Sorry it took a few days longer than I expected.

I am returning to full Active status as of today.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

This draft is now closed. Thank you, Professor MacGuffinProfessor MacGuffin, for the critique!


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

I am updating my Staff Activity Level from Inactive to Reserve. Basically, I'll be slowly increasing my activity on the site over the next couple of weeks as I recover from the massive amounts of jetlag I'm currently suffering from.

By 20 January, I will be returning to Active status and will fully resume my administrative duties.

Thanks again, everyone.


"And nothing of value was lost."
— Dr. Jack Bright.

I hit a tiny SNAFU and had a realization whilst working on the Form Fill stuff. If we implement the Form Fill pages into the CCC Hub, then people are going to have an even more complicated time trying to get their articles from the Sandbox to the Mains than expected.

See, after a user gets their final crit on a draft and decide that it's ready to be posted on the Mains, they have to copy the Page Source from their Sandbox to a new page on the Mains.

A few of you know exactly what I mean by this, but for those who don't, it's a three-stage process:

  1. After receiving the final crit, create the new blank page.
    • This will pop up the _404 page that reminds users if they've gone through with crit and all that.
  2. Open the Sandbox, click [EDIT], and select the page source in the Edit Box.
  3. Copy the source from the Sandbox to the New Page source and hit [SAVE].

With a Form Fill page, though, the user will not have that opportunity because they cannot get to the actual page source. I mean, sure, they can go to [+Options] and hit [Page Source], but that presents an even larger issue of data flow. Sometimes, things will not match up, which will cause all their work to disappear in that case. It'll also present an issue on us with critiquing and further providing our editing services for the same reason.

With all that, I disappointedly suggest we move away from the Form Fill concept and toward a Templates-based concept.

Templates are easy enough to use, and we can store hundreds of different types for our users, and quickly create Templates on the fly! Not only that, but our users then will have the freedom to expand their articles or remove unnecessary bits if needed! An example would be:

Under Form Fill, the article for the Pin will be forced to contain areas that are not needed, such as the above-mentioned. Meanwhile, under the Templates system, the author has the power to remove those bits from the article.

So, those are my thoughts. It's something I should have considered before dedicating so many hours to it, but one must learn, eh? The TabView front page for the CCC Hub, however, doesn't need to change, and now we can add a tagging system that will give users more control over the type of items they want to create, look for, and use.

What are your thoughts on this? Bonus question: should I do a How-To video on creating new pages after getting critified?


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

A Problem with Drafting by Reverend FoxReverend Fox, 10 Jan 2018 18:29

Your critiques have been considered and implemented. I've mashed B and C together into something that may work a little more smoothly.

What do you think, Professor?


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

A. "..and attempted to fight against slavery in the Aubergine Kingdom, only to find that slavery is not only legal, but is condoned there."

Reads a bit awkwardly. Maybe reword. Perhaps something like, "fought for the liberation of slaves in the Aubergine Kingdom, despite knowing slavery was both legal and condoned."

B. "Kuznets has a heroic personality and his intentions are noble, though he has somewhat of a temper that can cause him to lose control and utter the word of power that causes the Y'kra transformation in Shanm't."

Reword. Also, consider tense. The whole page is (Rightfully so) in past tense. My thoughts? "Kuznets had a heroic personality and noble intentions. He had a fierce temper that could overtake him and result in his transformation into a Y'kra.

C. "Kuznets had a tendency to leap before he looked and was very often overly melodramatic. When given to his anger, he would utter the command word without realizing it and fly into a blind rage while in his Y'ktra form. This has almost proved deadly to the party on numerous occasions, but they chose to look past it."

Might wanna just forget B altogether. This sentence already seems to summarize it.

D. "..black steel core."

..BLACK STEEL!


"Wenn ist das Nunstück git und Slotermeyer? Ja! Beiherhund das Oder die Flipperwaldt gersput!"
~ A really funny joke

I've finished my redraft of the Kuznets page. Some of the changes made are:

  • Snipped some of the statbox because the character is dead.
  • Changed the article from present to past tense.
  • Corrected some of the blaring plotholes.
  • Added details to improve the story aspect.
  • Added pertinent crosslinks.

I believe that this article is ready for a crit.

http://havokrpg-adm.wikidot.com/forum/t-4815416/crit-request-kuznets-redraft

EDIT: This draft is now closed. Thank you!


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

Submitting for CF-Crit by Reverend FoxReverend Fox, 09 Jan 2018 17:25

Hello, all. As it says on the tin, I would like at least two crits for my redrafting of the Kuznets article. One of which should be Professor MacGuffinProfessor MacGuffin, as he is the closest thing we have to a Crit Staff at the moment.

The draft link is here — http://havokrpg-adm.wikidot.com/cf-sb:2


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

Looking forward to having you back, Grey! We've missed you around here!


"Sometimes you can approach feedback with a scalpel, sometimes only the sledgehammer approach will make your point clear."
~ Zyn - Forum Crit Team Captain @ The SCP Foundation

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